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| Topic Started: Feb 1 2010, 09:33 PM (337 Views) | |
| --CM DRUNK-- | Feb 5 2010, 05:46 AM Post #31 |
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So pretty much you just said he sucked. JTG certainly does suck and you just compared them. Dibiase and Orton has been building for so long now, it's one of the most exciting storylines in the WWE at the moment because it hasn't just had 3 weeks of build up, it's had nearly a year. Punk is up there with the top heels, he is excellent on the mic. Always makes me want to hear him speak. Gets the audience involved and get them to hate him, much like Jericho or Mcmahon. He's not just a bad guy because he beats up the good guys (Sheamus, Batista, Orton)
So you're one of those guys who cheers the heels just to be cool? You are cool.
How did you get that assumption? I can't say Punk is underrated because he's getting pushed hard and is establishing his own faction. He will also be carrying both shows when he beats DX for the titles on RAW next week. Nice chatting with you pumpkin. |
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| Nebuchanezzar | Feb 5 2010, 07:14 AM Post #32 |
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I think your point about how CM Punk gets heat is a good one - his heat isn't cheap like Jericho's (insulting the audience) or half baked like Sheamus's (beating up good guys), it's genuine hatred from the fans. The Rock did it, HBK did it, HHH did it like a fucking God - CM Punk is doing it as well. |
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| Cybrus | Feb 5 2010, 10:44 AM Post #33 |
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But CM Punk does insult the audience. Whereas Jericho calls the fans hypocrites and whatever big word he found in the dictionary that day, CM Punk insults the fans by calling them addicts week in and week out. 
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| Nebuchanezzar | Feb 5 2010, 11:29 AM Post #34 |
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I suppose that the distinction lies in the fact that Jericho outright insults the audience whereas Punk's insults are implied in his disapproval of the audience for fairly legitimate reasons. It's as if Punk is preaching and hence insults the audience, whereas Jericho simply insults the audience. Having said as much, I like heels who insult the audience and I can't think of any who haven't relied on it fairly heavily. |
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| --CM DRUNK-- | Feb 5 2010, 05:17 PM Post #35 |
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Mcmahon is the the best of them all. Punk is a close second. Punk is actually trying to tell people the right thing to do, the way he does it is what pisses people off and makes them hate him. All my mates ask me why i love him so much when he is straight edge and i'm watching him preach with a beer in one hand and a smoke in the other. I have nothing else to say except he is entertaining, he obviously gets people to hate him, he is fun to watch and makes me tune in every week. (hopefully twice when he wins the tag titles, touch wood) |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 6 2010, 01:04 AM Post #36 |
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Punk isnt a close second to McMahon, or even a close 5th for that matter. As for Jericho. You can say his heat for dissing the crown is cheap. But you cant say he doesnt insult the crowd for legitimate reasons. I get drawed into almost every word Jericho says when he disses the crowd. Especially during that fued with HBK last year and the way he dissed them for cheering for him. It was great. Absolutly legitamate and just awesome. As for Punk Lover number 1. I dont cheer for heels to be cool. The fact remains that any wrestler makes a better heel then a face. Bret Hart and Stone Cold are 2 of my faves of all time. And they were faces for the majority of there careers. All though they both made awesome heels lol. |
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| Nebuchanezzar | Feb 6 2010, 05:49 AM Post #37 |
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What are those legitimate reasons, exactly? McMahon hates them because he's a billionaire and they give him money, allowing him to look down his nose with contempt. CM Punk hates them because they are sinners. Jericho hates them because...he hates them and they hate him. It's far less legitimate. Having said as much, I find Jericho highly entertaining and if you look under my avatar, he's been listed as my favourite active wrestler since i started watching wrestling again. |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 6 2010, 05:52 AM Post #38 |
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He called wrestling fans hypocrites one time and had very good reasoning behind it. But Im too lazy to remember exactly how it went. Either way it was great and awesome. Theres no such thing as cheap heat. Wanna be a good heel? Ya gotta punch a women in the face. |
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| Nebuchanezzar | Feb 6 2010, 05:56 AM Post #39 |
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He did that and it provided many lolz |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 6 2010, 06:00 AM Post #40 |
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Remember when Stone Cold and Triple H beat up Lita? Hahaha, great day great day. Anyway, until CM Punk can do something like that, he remains a lil bitch to me. |
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| Nebuchanezzar | Feb 6 2010, 06:04 AM Post #41 |
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Great times, great times. That was the two man power trip yes? Remember their three stages of hell match? That might not have been the attitude era, but that was a fucking awesome feud. |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 6 2010, 06:10 AM Post #42 |
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It truley was. Definitly one of my favorite fueds of all time. And also a fucking spectacular match. That was there 2nd fued. The first one, Triple H had that sack of dead rattlesnakes. Hahaha another great fued between the two. I also beleive that the main event should have been Triple H v Stone Cold at WM 18. Rather then HHH V Jericho. At the time, Jericho didnt deserve it. Triple H had just returned to WWE and the reaction Austin and The Game got at the Rumble that year when they went toe to toe, was crazy. Yet HHH got Jericho and Austin got Scott Hall. Like WTF. |
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| Nebuchanezzar | Feb 6 2010, 06:18 AM Post #43 |
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Agreed entirely. |
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| --CM DRUNK-- | Feb 6 2010, 07:05 PM Post #44 |
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And i believe you said, if you wanna be a good heel you have to do something like that. Royal Rumble 2010, GTS to Beth Phoenix. One of the best. |
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| Nebuchanezzar | Feb 7 2010, 01:35 AM Post #45 |
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Hahaha I forgot about that. Pwnt. |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 7 2010, 05:36 PM Post #46 |
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Uh huh. I said girl. Not someone bigger then him. |
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| --CM DRUNK-- | Feb 7 2010, 05:56 PM Post #47 |
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I'd |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 8 2010, 02:58 AM Post #48 |
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Umm, yup your a Punk fan. |
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| --CM DRUNK-- | Feb 8 2010, 04:12 AM Post #49 |
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Don't you ever forget it, bitch. |
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| Cybrus | Feb 8 2010, 04:16 AM Post #50 |
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While I rank Punk, Orton, and Jericho together as the top three heels right now, I'd say that Punk has been the better of the three lately. Orton hasn't really been doing anything since they are waiting to really jump into his feud with Teddy. And Jericho has been floating around aimlessly since getting out of the Tag Title scene. Punk has been consistently building his SES. |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 8 2010, 04:25 AM Post #51 |
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I havent been watching enough to have a true opinion on SES. But when I stopped watching a little less then a year ago. CM Punk sucked. |
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| --CM DRUNK-- | Feb 8 2010, 05:21 AM Post #52 |
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So therefor your opinion about Punk in the past year is invalid. |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 8 2010, 05:29 AM Post #53 |
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Heh, he has 3 world titles he shouldnt have, so whatever i dont feel bad for any unjust critisism i give him. |
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| --CM DRUNK-- | Feb 8 2010, 05:33 AM Post #54 |
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Please explain how he "doesn't" deserve them? He has won MITB twice in a row, became champion on both occasions, "retired" Jeff Hardy and has continued to be a consistent top heel |
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| 15 Shows | Feb 8 2010, 05:41 AM Post #55 |
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Yeah, he didnt deserve MITB either. You think winning means things in wrestling? Come on dude. |
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| Nebuchanezzar | Feb 8 2010, 06:25 AM Post #56 |
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Yes I was going to say the same thing. If winning things, or doing so legitimately, was important in wrestling then Diesel would be the world's greatest champion. |
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| --CM DRUNK-- | Feb 8 2010, 07:55 AM Post #57 |
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I've already said numerous times how good he is on the mic, in the ring, his new stable. Everything about him at the moment is gold. You just say "oh you like punk, you suck" |
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| Cybrus | Feb 8 2010, 08:52 AM Post #58 |
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C'mon, he's already admitted to not watching Punk for the past year so he is obviously just saying whatever he can to get this reaction out of you. Why continue to argue with him. Recognize his opinions are moot and move on. Because there is no way anyone could have sat through the Hardy/Punk feud and not have become a fan of Punk as heel. That feud made Punk in WWE. Also, I agree that Punk's first two World Title reigns were pretty undeserved. He was a boring, bland face at that time and he failed both times as World Champion. His last World Title reign was awesome, but because he became a heel, picked up his game, got a good character, and finally started shinning as brightly as his ROH fans said he could. |
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